I started to write a comment on Profgrrrrl's post about this, but it was getting out of hand!
I was hired here first, then H was offered a job later (his record is what got their attention in the first place, but he was put through as a 'diversity hire'). I know we were extremely lucky and there are some people (at our U and in our department) who were not pleased about his hire, but he was a net new line- a faculty line we wouldn't have otherwise. I know it would never happen now given budget cuts, but we came in at a very good time and had a department chair who knew how to schmooze the administrators on our behalf. At the time, H was prepared to stay in his old (tenure-track) job and commute back there for a few days at a time (3 hour drive). It would not have been ideal, but we would have done it and probably kept looking. D was not even three then, so it would have been especially tough for me the days that H was away.
H contributes to the department in significant ways and I often wonder who would be teaching his courses if he hadn't been hired. We don't have any kind of monopoly on department politics (in fact we often feel that nobody listens to anything we say!) We collaborate on research sometimes, alternate teaching one course between us, and I really don't think that our being married has much (if any) bearing on the department at all.
As lucky as we are, it hasn't always been easy. H was shortchanged by the P&T committee one year and forced to forfeit ALL of his years in a TT position- that meant that we went up at the same time. It was stressful to be going through the process at the same time, but also a lot of pressure to not 'blow' our excellent situation. That was why we never talked about having another baby until after tenure (and that didn't work out). I sometimes wish that we had just had another child earlier, but H always reminds me "what if we didn't get tenure?" I tend to think that things would have been fine, but who knows how having another baby would have impacted my pre-tenure productivity.
I think it's hard to make sweeping statements about spousal hiring one way or the other. In some cases they can be good and other times there can be problems. I can understand the resentment from others, but I'm in no position to judge. I'm just very lucky that my U has a favorable attitude about it- they have even created positions (non-TT) for same sex partners. Pretty progressive for Small Town Midwest!
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I think it is often overlooked that a college or university can actually get two people they could not compete for otherwise by solving the couple's two body problem. I think this is the reality more often than not.
The problems people describe are often associated with particular personalities, but then blamed on the situation. I noticed that one person in the comments on the other post complained about now having two difficult faculty members instead of one. The problem is not that they hired a couple, but that they hired people difficult to get along with. Bad hiring decisions are made all the time. I don't think these are any more frequent when spousal hires are involved. In fact, I think they are less.
I think that is an excellent point, Twice! I always had positive views toward academic couples in grad school. We had a departmental married couple in my Master's department and my PhD advisor's spouse was at the same U, but different department. Both of those couples' situations have changed though- and they're both examples of how having a couple can mean LOSING two faculty at once (one couple recently went to a different U and the other is now divorced with one of them leaving the U).
Hi Addy N,
I have been enjoying your blog for some time, but haven't commented before. There seems to be quite a bit of activity on spousal hiring on several blogs, YFS, profgrrrl's, yours, Reassigned Time, etc.
It's a topic I feel quite passionately about, as you can see
here .
I am a strong proponent of
spousal hires, spousal placement assistance, and affirmative action in general. These are not perfect but have overall had an extremely positive impact on women's ability to keep their careers.
Thanks for the post!
Hi geekmommyprof! I will definitely check out your post (and blog!) Thanks for commenting! :)
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